CAROLYN: We do know between last year and this year that mob violence against gays is up. We certainly are aware it's a huge problem. These are people beaten to the point of nearly close to death. A man going in to visit his mother in her community, and not only him being attacked, but his mother being attacked for allowing him to visit her. It's unbelievable quite frankly what's happening.

INTERVIEWER: If we can talk about the justice system, how many trials have there been for people perpetrating violence against homosexuals?

CAROLYN: "I don't know of any involving mob violence. And I don't know of any trials of any other persons involved in mob violence".

INTERVIEWER: How do you interpret that?

CAROLYN: It's again the syndrome that we face with crime in Jamaica, where you can vurtually be assured of two thirds of the time getting away with the most serious of crimes, which is murder. Because the police cleared-up rate for murder is 30%. The statistic that I find appalling, is that in the year that we had 1600 and odd murders, they had 47 convictions for murder. That statistic, I think, explains a lot of the mob violence. If you can do it and get away with it, you will.

INTERVIEWER: Would that also explain the fact that there don't seem to be that many prosecutions of police officers that are alleged to have been involved or complicit with attacks? Do you have any figures on that?

CAROLYN: In the last ten years, we would have had close to 1800 persons killed by police and there has been one conviction.

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